Updated Handicaps – Money List

A few notes from the outgoing Fairness Specialist.

Skins:   Back in the beginning it was perceived that skins favoured the high handicappers.  It doesn’t.  The biggest positive of skins is that if someone is having a bad day they are inclined to remain interested in the next hole because it matters.  Handicap manipulation can occur if the last couple holes don’t matter. Medal and Stableford players tend to throw in the towel if they start poorly.

White tees:  Back in 2009 there were 14 Santiburi members that played 25 or more times.  Of the 14 members there were 6 that had handicaps of 14 or less, 4 between 15 and 19, and 4 that had handicaps of 20 or more with the highest being 25.   Currently there is 1 member below 16, 4 members 17 – 19, 6 in the 20’s, and 3 in the 30’s.  In 2009 it made sense to play the blues.   The members have evolved into a group where several are struggling from the blues.  Perhaps it is time to change to having most if not all competitions from the white tees.

Handicaps:   There are 3 handicap systems used in the world (USGA, EGA and CONGU).  They all have their flaws.  None of them address the fact that Santiburi can play up to 4 strokes more difficult depending on the tee boxes used and the dampness of the rough and fairway. The purpose of handicaps is to try make a level playing field.   Everyone should have an equal chance to win money no matter what level of ability they possess.   Consideration should be given to those that frequently lose money.   We don’t want players leaving the group because they usually lose money.   That isn’t fun!   The USGA manual states that the Handicap Committee may adjust handicaps.  I adopted the title “Fairness Specialist” because I recognized that there is more to handicapping than just inputting scores and watching a computer spew out handicaps.   Computers don’t understand what is fair.

I never penalize someone for a good round or a streak of good rounds.   The handicap system does that well enough.   However during the past year or so I have routinely given 2 bonus shots for the following:

  • Anyone new that has never played or has limited experience at Santiburi. I have never found a visitor to exaggerate his handicap.   Lack of course knowledge is worth at least 2 strokes.
  • Anyone that has been out of town for 3 or more months. Almost all return “rusty”.
  • Anyone that has been losing on a regular basis that feels they need the extra help. Skins may not suit some golfer’s style of play.  It’s rare that this happens but there is a need to keep everyone happy.

Once any of the above manage 36+ points a couple times over a short period of time I take the bonus strokes away.

I find the Chiang Rai Golfers handicaps to be compatible with ours and accept their handicaps as they are.

In closing I would like to thank all the members (and former members) for their support this past 2 and a half years and hope you all support the new Fairness Specialist (Graham) as well.  Graham knows he can always count on me for help and advise.

Feel free to comment below.

Current handicaps:

Changes:  Andrew up 1 to 17,  Graham up 1 to 23,  Les down 1 to 33, Marc down 1 to 21, Peter up 1 to 13

Name Handicap Index Blue Handicap White tee comps
Members:
Andrew 15.4 17  up 1 16
Brian J 21.8 24 22
Bruce G 4.9 5 5
Darryl 17.1 18 17
Egbert 24.6 27 25
Graham T 21.7 23 up 1 22
5Points 26 26
Jockey John 20.3 22 20
Leo 16.2 17 16
Les 30.8 33 down 1 31
Marc 19.9 21 down 1 20
Peter R 12 13 up 1 12
Steve 32.7 35 33
Bruce K 30.4 plays 29 31
Friends
Colin 16 assigned 15
Will 12.6 14 13

Money List:

member 2017 skins only 2017 all comps 2015 ->now per round
BruceG 1636 2866 14297 72
Les 1838 1928 1223 20
Leo 1596 1571 3164 11
Darryl 1411 1411 1052 17
5Points 1926 1111 -970 -4
Peter 1182 712 1252 33
Egbert 248 248 191 3
Steve 20 -80 -1589 -66
Andrew -370 -420 -2037 -46
Marc -250 -500 -1272 -16
BruceK -772 -822 -2682 -56
Jockey -1052 -1052 1272 15
Brian -1576 -1476 -5412 -38
Graham -1796 -1936 -201 -1

Results – August 14, 2017

Another steamy day at Santiburi.  The greenskeeper staff did small-tine aeration on the front nine greens in front of our group, and spread topsoil on the greens behind us.  The aeration was virtually unnoticeable.  The sanding will likely be unnoticeable by next Thursday, when we play again.  The course was in excellent condition.

We had seven players:  Five members and two friends, Colin and Jeff.  Jeff and Peter are returning to Pattaya shortly, so this is Jeff’s last round with us.  It was a pleasure meeting you and playing with you, Jeff!  Please join us again when you are in town!  Peter will return in three weeks or so.

We played individual skins.  Here are the results:

Stableford scores:

  • Winner:  Andrew (37 points)
  • Runner(s)-up:  Bruce G (35 points) and Colin (35 points)

Closest-to-the-pins:

  • Hole 3:  Peter
  • Hole 7:  Bruce G (edged out Colin)
  • Hole 12:  Bruce G (edged out Peter)
  • Hole 17: Colin
stb score Players hcap Skins Money
22 112 5Points 26 4.00 30
28 102 Graham 22 1.50 -145
35 78 Bruce G 5 5.00 100
37 87 Andrew 16 5.50 135
35 89 Colin 16 6.50 205
32 86 Peter 10 1.50 -145
30 92 Jeff 14 1.00 -180

Next Events:

Santiburi Members and Friends

  • Every Monday, Thursday, and Saturday.   Please be at the course by 8.15am.

Chiang Rai Golfers.

  • Waterford  Tuesday 15th  8 30am

Results – August 12, 2017

It was a warm, muggy day at Santiburi.  The course was in fine condition, with all bunkers repaired and the fairways in good shape.  We had eight players:  six members and two friends, Colin and Jeff.  The Organizer of the Day, Andrew, called for foursome skins, with team awards for closest-to-the-pins on all par 3’s and team awards for the best stableford score and runner-up score.

I’ll go ahead and say it, 5Points was hard-pressed to figure all this out at the end.  Maybe he should drink; it may have all been clearer at the end of the day.  Nonetheless, after some interminable delays, we calculated the winnings and came to an amicable agreement on the outcome.  Leo, come back!  Everyone agrees, you do this so much better than 5Points!

Here are the results:

Closest to the Pins:

  • Hole 3: Bruce G (1 skin for Team Bruce G)
  • Hole 7: Peter (1 skin for Team 5Points)
  • Hole 12: Andrew (1 skin for Team Graham)
  • Hole 17: Jeff (1 skin for Team Les)

Stableford:

  • Stableford Winner:  Bruce G – 35 Points (2 skins for Team Bruce G)
  • Runner Up:  Tie Andrew and Graham – 32 Points (1 skin for Team Graham)

With team skins, each team records the best stableford score for each hole.  With four teams, a tie is a carryover — holes must be won outright.    There were a lot of carry-overs, and once again Team Les made the right scores on the right holes, including winning 7 skins on hole 10.  Team Bruce G won 6 skins on hole 18 due to a tie, since our standard practice with blind skins is to award a carry-over on hole 18 to the team with the highest stableford score.

 

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
29 105 5Points 26 0.50 -210
24 94 Peter 10 0.50 -210
  Team 5Points 1.00 -420
32 98 Graham 22 2.00 -90
32 92 Andrew 16 2.00 -90
Team Graham 4.00 -180
35 78 Bruce G 5 4.50 110
31 93 Colin 16 4.50 110
Team Bruce G
9.00 220
31 111 Les 34 5.50 190
27 95 Jeff 14 5.50 190
Team Les 11.00 380

Santiburi Members and Friends

  • Every Monday, Thursday, and Saturday.   Please be at the course by 8.15am.

Chiang Rai Golfers.

  • Waterford  Tuesday 15th  8 30am

Results – August 10, 2017

A beautiful day at Santiburi.  The course was in pretty good condition, still recovering from recent rains and fairway maintenance, but bunkers in generally good shape.  We had eight players:  six members, and two friends, Colin and Jeff, a friend of Peter R’s from Pattaya.  We played four man teams, with each team counting the two best scores of their group, at 100 baht per player.  We also recorded the closest-to-the-pins on all par=3 holes (40 baht), and paid 20 baht per player to the individual with the best stableford score.

Les struggled mightily to carry his team, but they just sucked too badly.  Les won the individual honors, but his team could only muster 82 points to Graham’s team score of 90.

Santiburi Members and Friends collected 3,500 baht as a condolence gift for Santiburi staff member Jitten Insorn, who was fatally injured in a motorcycle accident on Sunday, and who will be cremated tomorrow.  The gift was donated to Mr. Insorn’s family in the name of Santiburi Members and Friends Golf Association.

Here are the results:

Closest-to-the-pins:

  • Hole 3:  5Points
  • Hole 7:  No One
  • Hole 12:  Graham (x2)
  • Hole 17:  Bruce G

Stableford Score:  Les (42 Points)

stb score Players hcap Money
41 89 Graham 22 200
35 89 Andrew 16 40
38 75 Bruce G 5 120
35 87 Jeff 14 40
90 Team Graham Winner!
25 109 5Points 26 (-80)
25 93 Peter R 10 (-160)
42 100 Les 34 0
28 96 Colin 16 (-160)
82 Team 5Points

Next Events:

Santiburi Members and Friends

  • Every Monday, Thursday, and Saturday.   Please be at the course by 8.15am.

Chiang Rai Golfers.

  • Sunday 13th  Contact Rob Parish for venue and tee time on Line or email parishrobparish@yahoo.co.uk
  • Waterford  Tuesday 15th  8 30am

 

Results – August 7, 2017

Once again the course had received a lot of rain, and  was affected by eroded or water-filled bunkers and soft fairways.  We elected to play all bunkers which had not been repaired as Ground Under Repair, with a free drop.  We also played Lift, Clean and Place in the fairways.

We had eight players (six members and two friends, Colin and John F).  We elected to play foursomes (two-man teams, with the team stableford score being the better ball).  We drew for teams, and each player contributed B100 for the winner-take-all pot.

The final scores were tightly grouped (within 3 points).  Colin and Les posted a winning score of 44.  Notably, Les scored 26 points on the back nine to post the team score on all nine holes and he also broke 100 for the first time.  He complained of back pain at the end, having carried his partner Colin on the entire back nine.  It was hit the ball, drag Colin, hit the ball, drag Colin!  Les graciously covered the drinks at the end, due to his 99 score.  Way to go, Les!

On a sad note, we received news that a Santiburi staff employee, Mr. Jittin Insorn, suffered fatal injuries in a motorcycle accident last night.  Mr. Insorn, age 23, worked in the bar/enclosed area in the upstairs restaurant.  His remains will be cremated on Friday, August 11.  On Thursday, John Cates (5Points) will be accepting voluntary donations for Mr. Insorn’s family to express our condolences.  Please see 5Points if you would like to contribute.

Here are the results:

stb score Players hcap Money
33 97 Graham 22 0
27 93 Peter R 12 0
41 Team Graham
37 97 5Points 26 0
33 80 Bruce G 5 0
42 Team 5Points
35 95 Marc 22 0
33 93 John F 18 0
43 Team Marc
43 99 Les 34 400
28 96 Colin 16 400
44 Team Les  Winner!

Next Events:

Santiburi Members and Friends

  • Every Monday, Thursday, and Saturday.   Please be at the course by 8.15am.

Chiang Rai Golfers.

  • Tuesday 8 Aug:  Waterford 8.30am.

Results – Saturday, August 5, 2017

Today opened beautifully, mostly cloudy and mild, but the weather report was not positive.  Sure enough, it rained on our group for about three holes as we made the turn, but it stopped after that and we finished the round with no problems.  The course is in fine shape, although some of the back nine fairways have been cored over the last week or so.

We had six members and one friend – Colin.  Marc did not participate in the skins game.  Skins is one of our favorite games because it keeps one engaged — even if one is not having the greatest round, all it takes is one (or two) holes to get you in the winner’s circle.  So it was for Les, who won hole 10 for four skins, and hole 17 for five skins, despite having the second-lowest stableford score.  Andrew said he was going to go to the driving range on Monday!  Good luck, Andrew!  Let us know how it goes.  We may be right behind you!

Results:

  • Closest to the Pins:
    • Hole 3:  Colin
    • Hole 7:  Graham
    • Hole 12:  Graham (beating Bruce G by about 1.5 feet)
    • Hole 17:  No one
  • Stableford
    • Winner:  Graham (38 Points)
    • Runner-Up:  Bruce G (33 Points)

 

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
24 110 5Points 26 1 -180
38 92 Graham 22 8 240
33 80 Bruce G 5 2 -120
28 96 Andrew 16 1 -180
25 116 Les 33 9 300
31 93 Colin 16 3 -60

Next Events:

Santiburi Members and Friends

  • Every Monday, Thursday, and Saturday.   Please be at the course by 8.15am.

Chiang Rai Golfers

  • Sunday 6 Aug:  Waterford, 8:30 am.  Contact Rob and let him know if you are coming.
  • Tuesday 8 Aug:  Waterford 8.30am.

Results — Thurs Aug 3

It was a beautiful, sunny day at Santiburi.  We had seven players:  four members and three friends, John F, Will + Colin.  Bruce K and Leo dropped by for lunch.  The course is in excellent condition.  The scores were unusually poor today.   Graham and Andrew both hit 2 balls into the water at the 17th — then had a discussion about who shot their ball furthest before ending up in the water.   For the first time the stableford was shared by three golfers.  Bruce G found a lot of Australian donations on the table at the end of the day.

Closest to the Pins:

  • Hole 3:  Colin
  • Hole 7: Bruce G
  • Hole 12:  Bruce G
  • Hole 17:  Bruce G

Stableford:

  • Winners : 33 points — Bruce G, John F, Les

Today’s scores:

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
33 80 Bruce G 5 8 310
28 102 Graham 22 nought -250
33 93 John F 18 5 100
29 95 Andrew 16 1 -180
20 102 Will 14 1 -180
33 109 Les 34 4 30
27 97 Colin 16 6 170

Next Events:

Santiburi Members and Friends

  • Every Monday, Thursday, and Saturday.  Be at the course by 8.15am.

Chiang Rai Golfers

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