The Handicap Saga Continues

On May 24th SMAF announced the following.  “For years, we have been handling our handicapping “in-house”.  While it has worked, after a fashion, our current system is less than satisfactory for a number of reasons.  First, our scores and handicaps are not available for peer review. Second, it is a burden for the person designated as the Fairness Specialist to gather scores, calculate handicaps, and disseminate the handicaps to SMAF participants.  Most importantly, there are readily available alternatives that make our current system pale in comparison.  One online handicap provider in particular, Birdie is very easy to use, is in use by many other golf associations in Thailand,….”

In the beginning my biggest objection to Birdie was that their calculation was different to the “in-house” calculation.   They corrected their mistake and now both calculations are identical.  Recently I announced that I had entered the scores from the SMAF blog into Birdie to get everyone’s handicaps.   The 2 reasons listed in the announcement have been satisfied.   That is, the scores and handicaps are available for peer review and I don’t find it a burden to take 5 minutes to enter the scores 3 times a week.   Members now have a choice of  1) maintaining their own handicaps 2) going to this blog and looking it up or 3) going to Birdie and looking it up.   What can be simpler than that?   What could possibly be wrong with that?

This past week I was locked out of 4 of the handicaps.   It appears that 4 members objected to me maintaining the group’s handicaps in a fair and impartial way.   I was advised by Birdie that if I were to continue to maintain these handicaps I would have to use completely fake names on the Birdie entries.   That has now been done and all the handicaps are once again up to date.   At no time did anyone from SMAF advise me of there being a problem with my work.   Why wouldn’t you want the scores entered correctly?  Why wouldn’t you want to give the members the choice of having me do it or doing it themselves?   Why would you get Birdie involved before even discussing it with me?   Are you really that thoughtless to involve them in a petty dispute?   Are you capable of coming up with any answers?

All scores are entered in less than 24 hours of them going on the SMAF blog.   You can see yours or anyone else’s handicaps by clicking on the “Current Handicap” tab at the top of this blog.   Scores can be found by clicking on the names.  If you have a problem with your fake name on Birdie I would be happy to change it to anything you prefer.

The handicaps I provide are completely safe from any manipulation.  This ensures all members of a fair result.   For some reason there are members that have a problem with that and they can’t even tell me why.

 

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Announcement / Peer Review — Sept 17, 2018

From the start I had 4 objections to Birdie handicaps.

  1. The Santiburi course ratings were incorrect.
  2. There is no way you can get 16 members to record their scores accurately and in a timely manner.   In addition, corrections can’t be made after a short period of time.
  3. Happy City and Waterford course ratings have been manufactured out of thin air by Birdie.   There is absolutely no way of knowing if they are even close to correct.
  4. To be peer reviewable you need all scores published on the blog.   Therefore only scores from SMAF competitions should be recorded.

Now the good news.   It appears that a while back (exact date unknown) Birdie corrected the Santiburi course ratings.   Therefore all scores entered since that unknown date are correct in the handicap calculation.

After looking at all the mistakes as well as laxness in what is acceptable and what isn’t I decided to enter everyone’s scores in Birdie as I see it should be done.  For those that want it done properly it is there for you to use and you don’t have to do anything further.   Peer reviews like the one below will no longer be necessary.   Anyone can now see the difference between what is correct and the rubbish members have entered.   For those that prefer inputting rubbish they can continue to do so as long as the other members are OK with it.

To see what has been entered at this point you can log into Birdie, click on Golfers and search SMAF as the name.  Please note that to get the correct blue tee handicap you need to multiply the index by 1.08 .   I will be simplifying this in the near future after I get all member’s scores input.

Peer Review

Waterford, Happy City and non-SMAF scores are not verifiable — They certainly may be correct.   I have made note of everything that would cause the member’s Birdie handicaps to differ from mine.

Andrew:

Missing score Aug 9th.  He has only played with SMAF for 4 of his last 20 rounds.   Hence the huge discrepancy in his handicap between his last 20 rounds played with SMAF and his last 20 recorded on Birdie.

Brian:

No BS-hcp

Bruce G:

Aug 11 (recorded 79 – blog says 80.  Aug 12 – non SMAF event, Aug 14 + 16 not Santiburi, missing Aug 23rd score, Sept 15th – front 9 twice.

Darryl:

No BS-hcp

Egbert:

Feb 17th white tee – not blue,  Feb 10th after being informed of the error entered the correct score – couldn’t delete the wrong score.

Graham:

Missing Sept 6th (113), Aug 25th recorded 94 not 93, Aug 16 not Santiburi, Aug 12th non-SMAF, Aug 6th recorded 103 not 100, Aug 4th recorded 104 not 106,   July 28th recorded 93 not 95, July 23rd recorded 97 not 96,

5 Points:

Sept 15th played front nine twice, Sept 1st recorded 111 not 112, Aug 29th non SMAF, Aug 25th adjusted a 107 to 105, Aug 16th Happy city, Aug 12th non SMAF,

Les:

Missing June 23rd (109)

Marc:

Uses TGA not Birdie – Aug 27th recorded 84 not 83, Aug 26th Waterford, Aug 11th recorded 92 not 91, also includes several non-SMAF rounds.

Peter R:

Aug 30th recorded 85 not 86, Aug 27th recorded twice, Aug 25th missing (95), missing March 10th (86), Feb 12th 90 not 81.

Steve:

Missing Aug 11th (111), Missing Aug 6th (108), Missing Mar 10th (109w),

Young:

Missing scores – Jan 18th,  has a couple non-SMAF scores

Paul:

Missing scores – Jan 18th, has a couple non-SMAF scores

John Park:

Missing Sept 10 (89), Sept 6th recorded 86 not 88, Aug 27th recorded 85 not 84, Aug 20th recorded two scores 81 & 82 correct score 80,  Aug 11th missing score 86, June 30th recorded 88 not 89, missing score June 16th (83), missing score June 11th (78), missing scores June 9th (84), missing score June 7th(80), a few non-SMAF scores

Jim:

Missing scores Sept 13th (106), Aug 27th (112), Aug 18th (108), July 30th (110), July 12th (103), July 9th (107), May 17th (112), May 14th (104), May 12th (104)

Bruce K:

Missing 2 scores from September 2017 which would get him over the 20 scores.

Updated Handicaps — Results Sept 1 -15

If you play the same 9 holes twice on the same day on an 18 hole course is your score valid for handicap purposes?   I am not certain but I don’t believe it is valid.   Can any of my many blog followers prove me wrong?

In the next day or so I will be doing another complete peer review.   I will also have some good news regarding Birdie handicaps.

Handicaps for all the members and recent friends are published twice a month.   All handicaps are peer reviewable.  All scores are recorded on this blog.  If anyone wants a listing of theirs or anyone else’s last 20 scores I will send it to them.  Only SMAF rounds played at Santiburi are included in the handicap calculation.

Updated Handicaps

Name Handicap Index Blue Handicap
Members:
Andrew 15.5 17 BS 18.1  (20)
Brian J 22.6 24
Bruce G 6.3 7 up 1 BS  5.7  (6)
Egbert 23.4 25 BS 23.9  (26)
Graham T 19.9 21 down 1 BS 20.0 (22)
Jim 31.4 34 BS  31.6  (34)
5Points 30.8 33 up 1 BS 30.9   (33)
John P 9.9 11 BS 11.7  (13)
Les 29.6 32
Marc 17.7 19 TGA 16.7 (18)
Paul P 17.8 19 BS 18.7  (20)
Peter R 12 13 BS 11.4  (12)
Young 29.9 30 red BS 30.0 (30)
Steve 30.8 33 b 31w (29) BS 31.3  (34b)
Bruce K 31.7 32w (30) BS 31.0  (31w)
Darryl 15.6 16w (13)
Friends
Woody 5.4 6 BS  3.8 (4)
Merv 28.5 31 29w  (26) BS 28.4  (31b)

For white tee competitions use your index rounded to the nearest whole number.

Darryl, Steve, Merv and Bruce K’s white handicaps are 16 / 32 / 29 / 32.   When competing against those on the blue tees they should use the number in brackets.

Results:

Results – Saturday, September 15, 2018

Played the front 9 twice.

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
28 110 Jim S 30 2 -160
34 86 Peter 12 4 -80
39 75 Bruce G 6 7 40
32 106 5Points 30 11 200

Results – Thursday, September 13, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
27 93 Peter 12 1 -130
28 110 5Points 30 2.5 -55
27 112 Merv 31 3 -30
32 106 Jim S 30 4.5 45
30 84 Bruce G 6 7 170

Results – Monday, September 10, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
19 119 5Points 30 1 -200
32 89 John P 13 4 -50
29 85 Bruce G 6 5 0
30 90 Peter 12 6 50
39 91 Graham 22 9 200

Results – Saturday, September 8, 2018

No skins game.

Player      H’cap    Gross    Net   Stableford   Winnings

  • Peter         12           92         80            28          (-230baht)
  • Jim S         31         108         77            31          (-230baht)
  • Bruce G      6           82         76            32          (-230baht)
  • 5Points     30         104         74            34            170baht
  • Graham    22          92          70            38            230baht
  • John P       13          82          69            39            290baht

Results – Thursday, September 6, 2018

Player       H’Cap     Gross    Net    Stableford   Skins  Money

  • Graham 22          113        91            17             0        (-250 baht)
  • 5Points 30           112       82            26              4        (-50 baht)
  • Bruce G 6             81       75            33              5     175 baht
  • Peter 12             91       79            26              2        (-150 baht)
  • John P 13             88       75            33             5   275 baht

Results – Monday, September 3, 2018

No skins game

Bruce G scored 37 points, (gross 77 with a 6 handicap).  5Points scored 24 points (gross 114 with a 30 handicap).

Results – Saturday, September 1, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
26 112 5Points 30 1 -180
26 113 Jim S 31 1.5 -145
34 92 Marc 18 2 -110
36 84 Peter 12 3 -40
41 81 John P 14 4 30
35 95 Graham 22 5.5 135
38 76 Bruce G 6 8 310

 

Updated Handicaps — Results Aug 18 – Aug 30

Updated Handicaps

I will be publishing the handicaps for all the members  and friends that have recently played twice a month.   All handicaps are peer reviewable.  All scores are recorded on this blog.  If anyone wants a listing of theirs or anyone else’s last 20 scores I will send it to them.  Only SMAF rounds played at Santiburi are included in the handicap calculation.   The course rating for all tees is as listed on the Santiburi golf course website.

Name Handicap Index Blue Handicap BS-hcp
Members: index (hcp)
Andrew 15.5 17 BS 18.5  (20)
Brian J 22.6 24
Bruce G 5.4 6 BS  5.6  (6)
Egbert 23.4 25 BS 23.9  (26)
Graham T 20.1 22 BS 20.8  (22)
Jim 31.5 34 BS  31.2  (34)
5Points 29.7 32 up 2 BS 30.1   (32)
John P 10.4 11 down 1 BS 12.4  (13)
Les 29.6 32 BS 29.6  (32)
Marc 17.8 19 down 1
Paul P 17.8 19 BS 18.7  (20)
Peter R 12.0 13 BS 11.5  (12)
Young 29.9 30 red BS 30 (30)
Steve 30.8 33 b 31 (29) BS 31.3  (34)
Bruce K 31.7 32 (30) BS 31.0  (31)
Darryl 15.6 16 (13)
Friends
Woody 5.4 6 BS  3.8 (4)
Colin 14.2 15 BS 14.0 (15)
Merv 28.5 29  (26) BS 27.9

For white tee competitions use your index rounded to the nearest whole number.

Darryl, Steve, Merv and Bruce K’s white handicaps are 16 / 32 / 29 / 32.   When competing against those on the blue tees they should use the number in brackets.

Results:

Thursday, August 30, 2018

Player           H’Cap    Stableford  Gross

  • 5Points           30              42             96
  • Graham          22              29           101
  • Peter               12              34             86
  • Bruce G            6              37             77

Results – Monday, August 27, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
27 112 Jim S 31 0.00 -250
27 103 Graham 22 0.50 -210
28 84 Woody 4 1.00 -170
28 110 5Points 30 2.00 -90
29 92 Peter 13 2.00 -90
39 75 Bruce G 6 5.50 190
38 84 John P 14 6.50 270
44 83 Marc 19 7.50 350

Results – Saturday, August 25, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
31 96 Marc 19 1.00 -190
26 95 Peter 13 3.00 -70
31 107 5Points 30 3.00 -70
32 90 John P 14 3.00 -70
38 77 Bruce G 7 6.50 140
37 93 Graham 22 8.50 260

Thursday, August 23, 2018

Player          HCap      Stableford Score      Gross Score

  • 5Points          30                    22                          116
  • Graham         23                   42                             89
  • Bruce G           7                   32                             83
  • Peter R           13                  32                             89

 Tuesday, August 21, 2018

Player          HCap      Stableford Score      Gross Score

  • 5Points          30                    26                          112
  • Graham         23                   38                             93
  • Bruce G           7                   32                             83
  • Peter R           13                  37                             84

Results – Monday, August 20, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
27 100 John F 19 0.50 -220
29 94 Colin 15 2.00 -130
31 100 Graham 23 3.00 -70
32 106 5Points 30 4.50 20
36 79 Bruce G 7 5.50 80
43 80 John P 15 9.50 320

Results- Saturday, August 18, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
32 91 Colin 15 4.50 -60
32 106 5Points 30 4.50 -60
30 108 Jim S 30 6.00 0
35 80 Bruce G 7 9.00 120

Peer Review #2

One of my objections to going to BIRDIE was that the members couldn’t be depended on to enter their scores correctly.   I was told that was OK because it was peer reviewable.

Below are scores that were on the SMAF blog and the scores a member entered into BIRDIE.

SMAF Blog Birdie
2017-09-25 94 94
2017-09-28 89 89
2017-10-12 90 90 gold not gold tee
2017-10-14 94 94
2017-12-28 97 97
2017-12-30 84 84
2018-01-04 89 89
2018-01-06 91 91
2018-01-08 83 83
2018-02-03 94 94
2018-02-05 82 82
2018-02-10 81 81
2018-02-12 90 81 wrong score
2018-03-05 94 94
2018-03-08 85 85
2018-03-10 86 missing missing score
2018-03-12 81 81
2018-03-15 82 82
2018-08-21 84 84
2018-08-23 89 89
2018-08-25 95 missing missing score
2018-08-27 92 92
2018-08-27 92 92 duplicated score

This wasn’t as bad as Peer Review #1 which is here.

My Final Thoughts on Handicaps

From the Santiburi Members blog — it’s been the headline since July 6th.

It’s coming…

…and Santiburi Members and Friends will be ready for the new World Handicap System, set to go live worldwide on 1 Jan 2020.

Here is also the text of an Instant Message chat between a SMAF administrator and Shane from BIRDIE:

  • SMAF Admin:Quick question: How will Birdie handle the changes coming with the World Handicap System coming on 1 Jan 2020?
  • Shane from BIRDIE: We’re already prepared, and have some of the rules already implemented.

Wow, what exciting news!   They will be ready.

My view is the World Handicap System will be great BUT only if the world which in this case includes Thailand accepts it and abides by the rules.  If the courses in Thailand haven’t been properly rated are they going to pay the necessary cost to do it? Why hasn’t the SMAF Admin asked Shane from BIRDIE why the Santiburi ratings are not the same as the published ratings?   Why hasn’t the SMAF Admin asked where the Happy City and Waterford ratings came from?   I’m guessing someone just made them up — maybe somewhat accurate or possibly way way off the mark.   How would we know? Why use BIRDIE?

 On May 24th SMAF announced the transition.  The stated goal for Santiburi Members and Friends is to “play golf and have fun”.  For years, we have been handling our handicapping “in-house”.  While it has worked, after a fashion, our current system is less than satisfactory for a number of reasons.  First, our scores and handicaps are not available for peer review. Second, it is a burden for the person designated as the Fairness Specialist to gather scores, calculate handicaps, and disseminate the handicaps to SMAF participants.  Most importantly, there are readily available alternatives that make our current system pale in comparison.  
How does BIRDIE help achieve the stated goal of “play golf and have fun”?  Does putting your own scores into a computer make your golf game more fun?   They claim the scores need to be available for peer review.  Over the past 3 months I have on numerous instances pointed out errors — were any corrected?  NO?   How many others have actually taken the time to review other scores or care?   They say it is a burden for the person designated to gather scores, calculate handicaps and disseminate the handicaps.  It takes a minute 3 times a week to enter the scores and possibly as much as 5 minutes every 2 weeks to put them on a blog.   Hardly a burden — and I have been doing it since they stopped.  How does BIRDIE make the handicaps I publish “pale in comparison”? 
Our handicap system is most useful for new SMAF participants (to initially establish their handicap), or for competitions with other golfers outside of SMAF, such as our annual community-wide tournaments (The Bernie, the Tony, the Canada Cup, The Community Cup, and others), and for competitions with other communities such as the Chiang Mai – Chiang Rai Cup.

Most Chiang Rai golfers are now aware that SMAF handicaps are now inflated due to BIRDIE.  How do you think it will go over when a SMAF member wins a competition by one stroke?

I emailed them and informed them that I was going public with the fact that BIRDIE is rubbish.  They responded by publishing my private email followed by a character assassination of me.   They said “Leo has advanced the following argument against transition away from his in-house system — SMAF members won’t/can’t update their scores or can’t be trusted to input them accurately, so their handicap will be wrong, and that will be unfair to other players.”  Have I not demonstrated that to be true?

 “There are over 2,000 subscribers to BIRDIE in Thailand.  That is a major vote of confidence in the BIRDIE system.”  There are over 2,000 subscribers to BIRDIE in Thailand.  After sampling the first 300 names I have found that 14% of them have ONLY the minimum 5 scores to get a handicap and that 58% of them don’t even have the 20 scores needed to get a proper handicap.   Hardly a vote of confidence when over half don’t have 20 rounds to enter.   I found 40% hadn’t entered anything during 2018 — apparently abandoned.  One had entered 129 scores up to Feb 2016 — none since — maybe he found a better way of keeping his handicap then again maybe he died.

 “To use Leo’s phrase, there is no way to know on any given day the “exactly right” handicap for any golfer with the skill level of the average SMAF participant.”  Exactly right is following the rules of the handicap manual, using the correct course ratings and inputting the correct scores. 

“We sincerely believe transitioning to an independent, portable, peer-reviewable system such as BIRDIE is far better than an in-house system that allows no insight into how the handicap is calculated.”   How is BIRDIE which uses incorrect course ratings “far better” than the in-house system that only accepted SMAF scores at Santiburi?   Since BIRDIE doesn’t give the course ratings I have “no insight” as to how the handicaps are calculated.  Do you?

I have demonstrated using actual statistics that several members have had their handicaps go up because of BIRDIE and have done better at skins because of it.   I have shown that a couple members have won fewer skins and done worse because they didn’t use BIRDIE correctly.  Would you say that BIRDIE is more fair?

The Administrators have claimed that BIRDIE is better but none of their claims have turned out to be true.  They have never explained why it was necessary.   It just seemed like a good idea at the time and they went with it.  They never bothered to ask the members if they wanted it and they haven’t asked if they think it is better.   There was the despicable attempt to baffle everyone with BS “When the range of likely scores is that wide, it becomes ridiculous to worry about whether a particular golfer’s handicap is 25.4, 24.8, or 23.4.  In technical terms, the “signal to noise” ratio is too great to fine tune the handicap to that level of detail.”  That statement shows a stunning lack of understanding of handicaps.  Ridiculous to worry about a 2 stroke difference?

I have chosen to accept the so-called “burden” of diligently and meticulously maintaining SMAF handicaps.  I have even offered to use any online service that SMAF prefers as long as only (correctly) rated courses are included in the calculations.   If they prefer I would set it up for them and they can do it (as long as it is done by only one person and done accurately).   Until then I will continue to be assiduous (which doesn’t mean I’m an asshole).

I was told in confidence by a member that this is extremely personal to the Administrators.   They would rather continue with rubbish handicaps than to admit they made a mistake.    Perhaps one day the members will realize that the Administrators are unable to put aside their personal differences for the good of the group.   Once they do their competitions will again be as fair as possible.

Updated handicaps / Results July 26- Aug 11

Updated Handicaps

I will be publishing the handicaps for all the members  and friends that have recently played every 2 weeks.  For those with 5 or more cards but less than 10 cards their handicap will be updated weekly.  All handicaps are peer reviewable.  All scores are recorded on this blog.  If anyone wants a listing of theirs or anyone else’s last 20 scores I will send it to them.  Only SMAF rounds played at Santiburi are included in the handicap calculation.   The course rating for all tees is as listed on the Santiburi golf course website.

Name Handicap Index Blue Handicap BS-hcp
Members: index (hcp)
Andrew 15.5 17 BS 18.6  (20)
Brian J 22.6 24
Bruce G 5.6 6 BS  6.0  (6)
Egbert 23.4 25 BS 23.9  (26)
Graham T 20.4 22 up 1 BS 20.4  (22)
Jim 31.5 34 BS  31.2  (34)
5Points 28 30 up 1 BS 29.1   (31)
John P 10.9 12 BS 13.7  (15)
Les 29.6 32
Marc 18.2 20
Paul P 17.8 19 BS 17.6  (19)
Peter R 12.1 13
Young 29.9 30 red BS 29.7 (30)
Steve 30.8 33 b 31 (29) BS 31.3  (34)
Bruce K 31.7 32 (30) BS 31.0  (31)
Darryl 15.6 16 (13)
Friends
Woody 5.1 6 BS  3.8 (4)
Colin 14.2 15 BS 13.7 (15)
Merv 28.5 29  (26) BS 27.9

For white tee competitions use your index rounded to the nearest whole number.

Darryl, Steve, Merv and Bruce K’s white handicaps are 16 / 32 / 29 / 32.   When competing against those on the blue tees they should use the number in brackets.

Results – Saturday, August 11, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
30 82 Woody 4 1.00 -170
37 86 John P 15 1.50 -130
35 80 Bruce G 7 2.00 -90
36 91 Marc 19 2.00 -90
31 111 Steve 34 3.00 -10
39 91 Graham 22 3.50 30
33 105 5Points 30 5.00 150
40 83 Colin 15 7.00 310

Results – Thursday, August 9, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
28 102 Graham 22 1.00 -170
30 108 5Points 30 1.00 -170
35 93 Andrew 20 2.00 -90
34 90 Colin 16 2.50 -50
38 99 Merv – W 29 2.50 -50
28 110 Jim S 30 3.00 -10
40 75 Bruce G 7 5.00 150
40 87 Marc 19 8.00 390

Results – Monday, August 6, 2018

stb score Players hcap pins Money
27 110 Merv – W 29 -240
30 100 Graham 22 -240
32 106 5Points 30 -240
34 108 Steve 34 1.0 -150
35 77 Woody 4 1.0 -150
37 78 Bruce G 7 1.0 -150
37 91 Andrew 20 60
38 87 Colin 17 360
39 80 Marty 11 1.0 750

Results – Saturday, August 4, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
38 81 Marty 11 0.00 -250
24 106 Graham 22 0.50 -205
31 107 Jim S 30 1.00 -160
33 105 5Points 30 1.50 -115
34 92 Colin 18 3.00 20
38 91 Leo 21 3.50 65
36 106 Steve 34 4.00 110
39 98 Merv 29 5.00 200
39 76 Bruce G 7 6.50 335

Results – August 2, 2018

stb score Players, Money hcap
35 103 5Points, (-90 baht) 30
35 84 Marty, broke even – 0 baht – 11
38 100 Merv, +210 baht 30
28 97 Colin, (-240 baht) 17
31 96 Marc, (-240 baht) 19
34 80 Bruce G, +90 baht 6
30 100 Graham, (-150 baht) 22
30 112 Steve, +210 baht 34
40 89 Leo, +210 baht 21

Results – Monday, July 30, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
28 110 Jim S 30 0.00 -250
21 117 5Points 30 0.50 -200
31 88 Marty 11 0.50 -200
32 106 Merv – W 30 0.50 -200
24 100 Colin 16 1.00 -150
36 76 Woody 4 2.50 0
34 80 Bruce G 6 3.50 100
29 108 Young 29 3.83 133
32 95 Paul 19 5.83 333
42 88 Leo 22 6.83 433

Results – Saturday, July 28, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
26 112 5Points 30 1.50 -130
34 80 Bruce G 6 1.50 -130
35 95 Graham 22 1.50 -130
31 106 Young 29 2.00 -90
39 88 Paul 19 2.00 -90
34 104 Jim S 30 4.00 70
39 103 Steve 34 5.00 150
41 89 Leo 22 7.50 350

Results – Thursday, July 26, 2018

  • Player          H’Cap     Stableford     Gross
  • 5Points           28                 31              105
  • Bruce G            7                 42                73
  • Martin            11                 30                89
  • Len                  11                 28                91

 

Updated handicaps — Results July 12 – 23

Heard at the table while doing the skins calculation yesterday — “If I used my BS handicap I would have had 3 points” — He would have been in the share of the 4 skins.  I still have not had an answer from the Administrators why we continue to use BS handicaps.   It is obvious to most that those that don’t use a BS handicap are at a disadvantage.   Some don’t mind getting cheated BS’d out of a few baht — some do mind.

Updated Handicaps

I will be publishing the handicaps for all the members  and friends that have recently played with us every 2 weeks.  For those with 5 or more cards but less than 10 cards their handicap will be updated weekly.  All handicaps are peer reviewable.  All scores are recorded on this blog.  If anyone wants a listing of theirs or anyone else’s last 20 scores I will send it to them.  Only SMAF rounds played at Santiburi are included in the handicap calculation.   The course rating for all tees is as listed on the Santiburi golf course website.

Name Handicap Index Blue Handicap BS-hcp
Members: index (hcp)
Andrew 15.4 17 BS 18.8  (20)
Brian J 22.6 24
Bruce G 5.5 6 BS  6.5  (7)
Egbert 23.4 25 BS 23.9  (26)
Graham T 19.8 21 BS 20.1  (22)
Jim 31.8 34 down 3 BS  32.9  (36)
5Points 26.7 29 up 1 BS 27.0   (29)
John P 10.9 12 BS 13.5  (15)
Leo 19.5 21 BS 20.7  (22)
Les 29.6 32
Marc 18.9 20 down 1
Paul P 18 19 BS 17.9  (19)
Peter R 12.1 13
Young 28.9 29 red BS 29.2
Steve 32.1 35 b 32 (30) BS 31.4  (34b)
Bruce K 31.7 32 (30) BS 31.0  (31w)
Darryl 15.6 16 (13)
Friends
Woody 5.1 6 BS  3.4  (4)

For white tee competitions use your index rounded to the nearest whole number.

Darryl, Steve and Bruce K’s white handicaps are 16 / 32 / 32.   When competing against those on the blue tees they should use the number in brackets.

Results – Monday, July 23, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
27 97 Peter 16 0.33 -210
31 95 Andrew 18 0.33 -210
33 96 Graham 21 0.50 -190
33 96 Mark W 21 1 -130
35 88 Rob 15 1 -130
35 104 Jim S 31 1 -130
33 89 Mick 14 1.83 -30
34 102 5Points 28 2.33 30
35 107 Steve 34 2.67 70
35 95 Leo 22 3.67 190
40 75 Bruce G 7 3.83 210
40 87 Marc 19 6.5 530

Results – Saturday, July 21, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
17 102 Min 11 0 -250
20 116 5Points 28 0 -250
34 103 Young 29 1 -170
30 89 Lenny 11 2 -90
33 106 Jim S 31 3 -10
35 80 Bruce G 7 4.5 110
40 80 Martin 12 6.5 270
36 91 Paul P 19 8 390

Thursday Report 19/07/18

No scores posted on the blog.    From Birdie —  Bruce G( 77), Jim S (107), Steve M (107) and Graham(94)

Results Sat 14/07/18

Bruce     79       37pts  (posted 77 on Birdie)

Marc      91        36pts

Ruuner up

Jim        108        26pts

Graham 102      27pts

Results Thursday 12/07/18

stb score Players hcap Money
27 99 Peter Mac 18 30
38 92 Leo 22 270
36 93 Graham 21 -30
37 78 Bruce 7 -90
37 103 Jim 32 -30
DNF #### Steve – W 30 -150

Updated handicaps — Results June 28 -> July 9, 2018

I will be publishing the handicaps for all the members  and friends that have recently played with us every 2 weeks.  For those with 5 or more cards but less than 10 cards their handicap will be updated weekly.  All handicaps are peer reviewable.  All scores are recorded on this blog.  If anyone wants a listing of theirs or anyone else’s last 20 scores I will send it to them.  Only SMAF rounds played at Santiburi are included in the handicap calculation.   The course rating for all tees is as listed on the Santiburi golf course website.

I will be publishing another handicap commentary probably on Wednesday.

Updated Handicaps – Monday, July 9, 2018

Name Handicap Index Blue Handicap
Members:
Andrew 15.4 17  up 1
Brian J 22.6 24
Bruce G 5.9 6
Egbert 23.4 25
Graham T 19.2 21  up 1
5Points 26.2 28
John P 10.9 12
Leo 19.3 21
Les 29.6 32
Marc 19.8 21
Paul P 17.8 19
Peter R 12.1 13
Young 28.4 29 red
Darryl 15.6 16 (13)
Steve 31.6 32 31 (29)
Bruce K 31.7 32 (30)
Friends
Woody 5.1 6  up 1
Jim 34 37 36 max.
Mike D 13.4 14  8 cards
Peter Mac 13.4 14  6 cards
Rob B 14.7 16  8 cards

For white tee competitions use your index rounded to the nearest whole number.

Darryl, Steve and Bruce K’s white handicaps are 16 / 31 / 32.   When competing against those on the blue tees they should use the number in brackets.

Results – Monday, July 9, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
24 99 Peter Mac 15 0 -250
37 87 Rob B 16 2 -90
37 85 Mike D 14 2.5 -50
39 92 Leo 23 12.5 750
33 96 Graham 21 1 -170
33 82 Bruce G 7 2.5 -50
33 107 Jim 32 4 70
30 108 Steve – W 30 0.5 -210

Results – Saturday, July 7, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
32 89 Rob B 13 0.00 -250
32 105 Young 29 0.00 -250
20 116 5Points 28 0.83 -150
30 90 Mike D 12 1.00 -130
35 92 Paul P 19 1.00 -130
38 91 Graham 21 1.00 -130
33 79 Woody 4 1.50 -70
38 77 Bruce G 7 1.50 -70
31 92 Peter Mac 15 2.00 -10
24 115 Jim S 31 3.00 110
42 79 John P 13 4.33 270
41 90 Leo 23 8.83 810

Results – Thursday, July 5, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
17 119 5Points 28 1.00 -170
29 107 Paul M 28 1.00 -170
33 94 Paul P 19 1.83 -103
33 104 Young 29 1.83 -103
29 110 Jim S 31 2.00 -90
33 96 Graham 21 4.33 97
27 88 Bruce G 7 4.50 110
44 95 Steve – W 31 8.50 430

Results – Monday, July 2, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
21 105 Paul 18 0.00 -250
33 96 Leo 21 0.50 -205
34 81 Bruce G 7 1.00 -160
30 90 Mike D 12 2.00 -70
28 92 Rob B 12 2.50 -25
36 100 5Points 28 3.00 20
42 96 Young 30 4.00 110
32 97 Graham 21 5.50 245
42 97 Steve – W 31 6.50 335

Results – Saturday, June 30, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
24 111 Young 27 2.00 -100
30 99 Graham 21 2.00 -100
33 94 Andrew 19 2.00 -100
32 107 Les 31 2.50 -65
31 105 5Points 28 4.00 40
37 90 Paul 19 5.00 110
32 89 John P 13 6.50 215

Results – Thursday, June 28, 2018

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
20 100 Rob B 12 0.00 -250
24 96 Mike D 12 2.00 -150
28 108 5Points 28 2.00 -150
39 76 Bruce G 7 9.00 200
31 98 Leo 21 12.00 350

Updated handicaps — Results June 21 – 25, 2018

I will be publishing the handicaps for all the members every 2 weeks.  All handicaps are peer reviewable.  All scores are recorded on this blog.  If anyone wants a listing of theirs or anyone else’s last 20 scores I will send it to them.  Only SMAF rounds played at Santiburi are included in the handicap calculation.   The course rating for all tees is as listed on the Santiburi golf course website.

Name Handicap Index Blue Handicap
Members:
Andrew 15.1 16
Brian J 22.6 24
Bruce G 5.7 6
Egbert 23.4 25
Graham T 18.4 20
5Points 26.6 29
John P 11.5 12
Leo 19.3 21
Les 29.6 32
Marc 19.8 21
Paul P 17.8 19
Peter R 12.1 13
Young 29.1 29 red
Darryl 15.6 16 (13)
Steve 30.8 33 31 (29)
Bruce K 31.7 32 (30)
Friends
Woody 4.9 5

For white tee competitions use your index rounded to the nearest whole number.

Darryl, Steve and Bruce K’s white handicaps are 16 / 31 / 32.   When competing against those on the blue tees they should use the number in brackets.

Results – Monday, June 25, 2018

Gross Scores (using above calculation) — Par is 72, we played from the blue tees:

  • Graham (HCap 20):  72 + 20 + 36 – 27 = Gross Score 101
  • 5Points (HCap 28):  72 + 28 + 36 – 31 = Gross Score 105
  • Bruce G (HCap 7):  72 + 7 + 36 – 36 = Gross Score 79

Results – Saturday, June 23, 2018

All played from blue tees.

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
30 106 5Points 28 2.00 -130
34 81 Bruce G 7 2.50 -100
42 87 Graham 21 4.00 -10
30 109 Les 31 4.50 20
41 80 John P 13 5.50 80
34 95 Leo 21 6.50 140

Thursday — June 21, 2018

Happy City –  No scores recorded on the blog.