Updated handicaps / money list

Handicaps:

Changes:   Brian down 2 to 24,  BruceG up 1 to 6, Egbert down 1 to 24,  Graham up 1 to 22

Name Handicap Index Blue Handicap White tee comps
Members:
Andrew 17.2 19 17
Brian J 22.6 24 DOWN 2 22
Bruce G 5.5 6 UP 1 5
Darryl 17.1 18 17
Egbert 22.6 24 DOWN 1 23
Graham T 20 22 UP 1 20
5Points 28.3 30 CAPPED 30 28
Leo 16.2 17 16
Les 28 30 28
Marc 21.5 23 22
Peter R 12 13 12
Steve 33 36 33
Bruce K 30.4 33 31
Friends
Colin 16 assigned 15
Will 12.6 14 13
Ralph P 40.4 CAPPED 36  41

Those playing off the white tees need to subtract 3 from their white tee handicaps when playing against those on the blues.

Member’s Money List :

member 2017 skins only 2017 all comps 2015-now per round
BruceG 1551 3156 14587 61
Les 3308 2983 2278 26
Leo 1794 1769 3362 11
Darryl 1411 1411 1052 17
Egbert 280 530 473 6
5Points 1484 429 -1652 -6
Peter 792 272 812 18
Steve -20 -120 -1629 -65
Marc 50 -260 -1032 -12
Brian -569 -369 -4305 -29
Andrew -635 -925 -2542 -45
BruceK -1142 -1192 -3052 -61
Graham -1426 -1236 499 1

 

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Updated handicaps / money list (Nov 21, 2017)

There is only one change.   Les is down one to 30.

Name Handicap Index Blue Handicap White tee comps
Members:
Andrew 18 19 17
Brian J 21.9 adjusted to 26 25
Bruce G 5 5 5
Darryl 17.1 18 17
Egbert 23.1 25 23
Graham T 19 21 19
5Points 28.1 30 28
Leo 16.2 17 16
Les 28 30 DOWN 1 28
Marc 21.5 23 22
Peter R 12 13 12
Steve 33 36 33
Bruce K 30.4 33 31

Those playing off the white tees need to subtract 3 from their white tee handicaps when playing against those on the blues.

Money List:

member 2017 skins only 2017 all comps 2015-now per round
BruceG 1881 3586 15017 64
Les 3468 3143 2438 29
Leo 1894 1869 3462 12
Darryl 1411 1411 1052 17
Egbert 635 785 728 10
5Points 1529 574 -1507 -5
Peter 792 272 812 18
Steve -20 -120 -1629 -65
Marc 50 -260 -1032 -12
Andrew -635 -925 -2542 -45
Graham -1371 -1081 654 2
BruceK -1142 -1192 -3052 -61
Brian -1409 -1309 -5245 -36

Handicaps – Money List – Sept 26

Changes:  Andrew up 1 to 19, BruceG  down 1 to 7,  Graham down 1 to 21, Les down 1 to 31.

Name Handicap Index Blue Handicap
Members:
Andrew 18 19 up 1
Brian J 21.8 24
Bruce G 6.4 7 down 1
Darryl 17.1 18
Egbert 24.6 27
Graham T 19.1 21 down 1
5Points 26
Leo 16.2 17
Les 28.6 31 down 1
Marc 20.6 22
Peter R 12 13
Steve 33 36
Bruce K 30.7 31
Friends
Will 12.6 14
Robert 20 22

Money List:

member 2017 skins only 2017 all comps 2015-now per round
BruceG 1431 3136 14567 68
Les 2513 2188 1483 20
Leo 1486 1461 3054 11
Darryl 1411 1411 1052 17
5Points 1946 991 -1090 -4
Peter 902 382 922 6
Egbert 248 248 191 3
Steve -20 -120 -1629 -65
Marc -130 -440 -1212 -14
Graham -1021 -731 1004 3
Andrew -635 -925 -2542 -45
BruceK -1142 -1192 -3052 -61
Brian -1576 -1476 -5412 -38

Updated Handicaps – Money List

A few notes from the outgoing Fairness Specialist.

Skins:   Back in the beginning it was perceived that skins favoured the high handicappers.  It doesn’t.  The biggest positive of skins is that if someone is having a bad day they are inclined to remain interested in the next hole because it matters.  Handicap manipulation can occur if the last couple holes don’t matter. Medal and Stableford players tend to throw in the towel if they start poorly.

White tees:  Back in 2009 there were 14 Santiburi members that played 25 or more times.  Of the 14 members there were 6 that had handicaps of 14 or less, 4 between 15 and 19, and 4 that had handicaps of 20 or more with the highest being 25.   Currently there is 1 member below 16, 4 members 17 – 19, 6 in the 20’s, and 3 in the 30’s.  In 2009 it made sense to play the blues.   The members have evolved into a group where several are struggling from the blues.  Perhaps it is time to change to having most if not all competitions from the white tees.

Handicaps:   There are 3 handicap systems used in the world (USGA, EGA and CONGU).  They all have their flaws.  None of them address the fact that Santiburi can play up to 4 strokes more difficult depending on the tee boxes used and the dampness of the rough and fairway. The purpose of handicaps is to try make a level playing field.   Everyone should have an equal chance to win money no matter what level of ability they possess.   Consideration should be given to those that frequently lose money.   We don’t want players leaving the group because they usually lose money.   That isn’t fun!   The USGA manual states that the Handicap Committee may adjust handicaps.  I adopted the title “Fairness Specialist” because I recognized that there is more to handicapping than just inputting scores and watching a computer spew out handicaps.   Computers don’t understand what is fair.

I never penalize someone for a good round or a streak of good rounds.   The handicap system does that well enough.   However during the past year or so I have routinely given 2 bonus shots for the following:

  • Anyone new that has never played or has limited experience at Santiburi. I have never found a visitor to exaggerate his handicap.   Lack of course knowledge is worth at least 2 strokes.
  • Anyone that has been out of town for 3 or more months. Almost all return “rusty”.
  • Anyone that has been losing on a regular basis that feels they need the extra help. Skins may not suit some golfer’s style of play.  It’s rare that this happens but there is a need to keep everyone happy.

Once any of the above manage 36+ points a couple times over a short period of time I take the bonus strokes away.

I find the Chiang Rai Golfers handicaps to be compatible with ours and accept their handicaps as they are.

In closing I would like to thank all the members (and former members) for their support this past 2 and a half years and hope you all support the new Fairness Specialist (Graham) as well.  Graham knows he can always count on me for help and advise.

Feel free to comment below.

Current handicaps:

Changes:  Andrew up 1 to 17,  Graham up 1 to 23,  Les down 1 to 33, Marc down 1 to 21, Peter up 1 to 13

Name Handicap Index Blue Handicap White tee comps
Members:
Andrew 15.4 17  up 1 16
Brian J 21.8 24 22
Bruce G 4.9 5 5
Darryl 17.1 18 17
Egbert 24.6 27 25
Graham T 21.7 23 up 1 22
5Points 26 26
Jockey John 20.3 22 20
Leo 16.2 17 16
Les 30.8 33 down 1 31
Marc 19.9 21 down 1 20
Peter R 12 13 up 1 12
Steve 32.7 35 33
Bruce K 30.4 plays 29 31
Friends
Colin 16 assigned 15
Will 12.6 14 13

Money List:

member 2017 skins only 2017 all comps 2015 ->now per round
BruceG 1636 2866 14297 72
Les 1838 1928 1223 20
Leo 1596 1571 3164 11
Darryl 1411 1411 1052 17
5Points 1926 1111 -970 -4
Peter 1182 712 1252 33
Egbert 248 248 191 3
Steve 20 -80 -1589 -66
Andrew -370 -420 -2037 -46
Marc -250 -500 -1272 -16
BruceK -772 -822 -2682 -56
Jockey -1052 -1052 1272 15
Brian -1576 -1476 -5412 -38
Graham -1796 -1936 -201 -1

Results — Thur July 6 — money list

Number of rounds played by Santiburi Members and Friends:

Jan 1 – June 30, 2016   :  507            Jan 1 – June 30, 2017  :  520

6 Santiburi Members and 3 Friends (Jim, Robert, Will) showed up today.   Jim and Robert’s visit with us came to an end and we don’t expect to see them again until December.

It was another day of overcast skies with no real threat of rain.   The sun did come out and warm things up during mid round.   Once again we played from the white tees and the master of the white tees, 5Points, had his “A” game again today (42 points).  Unfortunately for him Jim came up with his best game since January 2016 and had 43 points.  That was over 12 strokes better than each of his previous 3 rounds this trip.  Well done to both.

Closest to the pins:   #3BruceG,   #7  (a measurement was required)  Jim 221″ narrowly beat Leo at 223″.   However Jim 3-putted and did the walk of shame handing the skin to Leo.   #12 — Again it was close.   BruceG playing the first group was on the green.  Leo playing in the second group hit the ball right at BruceG’s marker and it rolled at most 2″ past it.   Another lucky win for Leo.   #17 — BruceG — very close to the pin about 4′.

Santiburi Members and Friends meet on Monday, Thursday and Saturday.  Please be at the course by 8:15 AM.   Blue tees this Saturday — then we will really see if 5Points has got it together.  Our friends are reminded that the green fee + caddie fee every day during the month of July is only 1300 baht.   

Chiang Rai Golfers play on Sunday — Contact Rob for details.    They will be at Waterford on Tuesday 8:30 AM.

Today’s scores:

stb score Players hcap Skins Money
32 82 Bruce G 6 3 20
35 93 Graham 20 1 -160
42 92 5Points 26 6 290
34 91 Leo 17 2 -70
31 108 Les 31 0.5 -205
29 111 Steve 32 4 110
43 101 Jim 36 7 380
35 109 Robert 36 1.5 -115
30 89 Will 11 0 -250

Money list:

Member 2017 2015->now per round
5Points 1996 -310 -1
Leo 1936 3504 13
Darryl 1411 1052 17
Peter 1327 1867 55
Les 978 -77 -2
BruceG 761 13142 71
Egbert 248 191 3
Steve 125 -1384 -66
Andrew 0 -1617 -43
Marc -250 -1172 -15
BruceK -607 -2517 -54
Jockey -1052 1272 15
Graham -1236 299 1
Brian -1576 -5412 -38

Results — Money List — Thursday Mar 30

It was warm today with a bit of a breeze.   The air quality is not near as bad as last year.  The course is in great condition.

There were 6 Members and 2 Friends —  Colin, JohnF

Closest to the pins —  #3 — Leo (23′),  #7 — Colin (15′),  #12 — Leo (28′),  #17 — JohnF (23′) .

After getting his handicap cut by 2 strokes Colin still managed to win the stableford with 42 points. Leo (also recently cut by 2 strokes) was 2nd with 38 points.  The 2 Canadians were the only ones to win any money — Leo with 8 skins for 390 baht, Colin with 7 skins for 310 baht.

Next rounds at Santiburi:     Saturday (1st), Monday (3rd) — Please be at the course by 8:15 AM.

Get your clubs re-gripped for free.  It is our understanding that if you bring your clubs to the Santiburi driving range during the Singha Masters competition that you will get them re-gripped for free.   More details to come.

Total number of rounds played by Santiburi Members and Friends:

Jan 1 – Mar 31, 2016   284                   Jan 1  – Mar 31, 2017  308

Current Money List:

member 2017 2015->now per round
Darryl 1411 1052 17
Peter 1290 1830 57
Leo 1196 2689 11
5Points 1146 -1035 -5
Les 1013 308 10
Egbert 328 271 5
BruceG -109 11572 76
Merv -187 -3095 -47
Marc -250 -1022 -15
BruceK -567 -2477 -59
Graham -583 1102 4
Jockey -1312 1012 12
Brian -1491 -5477 -43

Today’s results:

stb score Players Skins Money
28 104 Brian 24 1 -170
29 84 Bruce 5 1.5 -130
36 92 Graham 20 2 -90
24 108 5Points 24 2.5 -50
38 86 Leo 16 8 390
33 110 Les 35 2 -90
42 81 Colin 15 7 310
35 91 John F 18 1 -170

Results — Money List — Thursday Mar 2nd

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Thursday results 

Again an absolutely perfect day for golf — warm with a light breeze.   The course was quiet and we got around at our own pace.   The only negative was the greens had been recently sanded and fertilized which made the first 3 or 4 greens a bit slow due to the morning dampness.

There were 9 Santiburi members today — Brian, Darryl,  Egbert, Graham, 5Points, Jockey, Leo, Les, Marc and 1 Friend — Robert.

Closest to the pins — #3 — no one,  #7 — no one,   #12 — 5Points (13′),  #17 — Leo (27′)

The stableford was won by Graham with 39 points.  The newest Santiburi member, Egbert, was second with 38 points.  Egbert  was the big money winner with 5 skins for a 200 baht profit.  Of note today was that holes 11 through 17 were pushed.   The 8 skins on the last hole were split between 2 high handicappers that had 4 point pars — Jockey and Egbert.

Rounds played by Santiburi Members and Friends:   Jan 1 – Feb 28, 2016   —  184 rounds   Jan 1 – Feb 28, 2017 — 189 rounds.

To do something a little different we will be playing from the white tees on Saturday.

Our next rounds are Saturday and Monday — Please be at the course by 8:30 AM.

A reminder that the Bernie Memorial Tournament is at Waterford on Sunday, March 12th.   Details are coming very soon.

Scores for today:

stb score Players Skins Money
35 97 Brian 24 2.0 -70
34 93 Darryl 19 1.0 -160
38 97 Egbert 27 5.0 200
37 96 5Points 25 4.5 155
39 88 Graham 19 3.5 65
36 94 Jockey 22 4.5 155
31 95 Leo 18 2.0 -70
30 113 Les 35 2.0 -70
33 97 Robert 22 0.5 -205
90 Marc

Money List:   

Member 2017 May 2015->now per round
5Points 1724 -457 -2
Darryl 1391 1032 18
Les 803 98 4
BruceG 629 12310 87
Leo 574 2067 9
Graham 436 2121 9
Peter 323 863 31
Merv -67 -2975 -47
Josh -130 -1588 -38
Marc -250 -1022 -16
Egbert -305 -362 -8
BruceK -850 -2760 -67
Jockey -1083 1241 17
Brian -1218 -5204 -45